definitions

All;

During IFR practice ride today controller advised us to "report established in the holding pattern". Does this mean upon crossing the fix for the first time (to begin, for example, a parallel entry) as in "report entering holding" or when you are on the holding course inbound as in "maintain x feet until established on the localizer inbound..." or after you cross the fix (assuming, for example, a parallel entry) and begin the outbound turn?? Any thoughts?

jrt

Comments

  • Well we now have two different answers...anyone else have an idea? Both of these sound logical to me which was the problem in the first place!

    jrt
  • Bob B.,

    Yes, this is the answer I chose. (BTW, I am a CFII). My student asked the question and, like so many of us old timers, I simply recited the answer and only when he asked "why" did I stop to think about it. The "protected airspace" concept is the key as you point out. In a non-radar environment the phraseology would have been different certainly.

    Thanks for the responses!

    jrt
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